Feb 4, 2026 · 387K views · 📍 Washington, DC
Nick Shirley interviews HHS Deputy Secretary Jim O'Neill (and an unnamed HHS official) about alleged fraud in federal healthcare and childcare programs, focused heavily on Minnesota and other states. They discuss frozen childcare funding, Medicaid fraud in high-risk categories like autism services and non-emergency medical transport, states suing HHS over demands for proof, and Medicaid benefits going to illegal immigrants.
Programs involved: Medicaid, Medicare, Child Care Assistance Program (CCAP), Housing Stabilization Services, Working Families Tax Cut Act
Figures below are claims made in the video, shown with the status stated there — this site does not verify them. Disclaimer
Savings from repealing Biden-era Medicaid eligibility verification rule
“saving over $100 billion dollars over the next 10 years”
Stated by unnamed HHS official
Penalty imposed on California for using federal money for illegal aliens' Medicaid benefits
“California had previously been penalized by over a billion dollars”
Stated by unnamed HHS official
Total paid since 2001-2025 to undisclosed NGOs shown on Minnesota state website
“since 2001 to 2025 over $724 million has been paid”
Stated by Nick Shirley
Federal spending on 14 high-risk fraud categories in Minnesota Medicaid
“it amounted in last year to $515 million a quarter only in federal spending”
Stated by unnamed HHS official
Childcare funding to Minnesota that HHS froze
“you're freezing over $185 million to childcare in Minnesota”
Stated by Nick Shirley / Jim O'Neill
Annual federal childcare money to Minnesota
“so 185 million uh specifically on child care to Minnesota”
Stated by Jim O'Neill
Funding Quality Learning Center received despite 90 violations
“they had 90 violations and they were continuing to receive, I believe is $1.9 million”
Stated by Nick Shirley
Amount received by Makeo Child Care daycare
“one called Makeo Childc Care and it had received over a million dollars”
Stated by Nick Shirley
All figures are as stated in the video — most are allegations, not adjudicated findings. Every dollar figure links to the timestamp where it is said. Extraction QA: All nine claims are accurately quoted, attributed, and classified against the transcript. Entity reconstructions from garbled ASR (Jim O'Neill, Tim Walz, Makeo Child Care, Zohran Mamdani, Youngkin, Hochul) are all fair and consistent with the audio. No hallucinated figures or entities were detected.
~ = name reconstructed from garbled auto-captions; verify before quoting.